Comments on: Trash All IE CSS Hacks? http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/ The adventures of a freelance web designer Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:02:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Mark http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4896 Mark Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:02:49 +0000 http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4896 Here's a regularly occurring situation: We make a proposal; we assume we'll spend time on browser compatibility (even if we need to make no true IE hacks, IE's rendering is still the least predictable and the most costly to us in development hours); someone underbids us. But I guess the same could be said of accessibility, standards-based design, etc. They're things about which we have to educate clients. Not easy, especially in a smaller market. I'm just glad most of my work is now in application development, where browser compatibility is a smaller proportion of the budget (not because it's less important, but because we're often working within proven designs). Here’s a regularly occurring situation: We make a proposal; we assume we’ll spend time on browser compatibility (even if we need to make no true IE hacks, IE’s rendering is still the least predictable and the most costly to us in development hours); someone underbids us.

But I guess the same could be said of accessibility, standards-based design, etc. They’re things about which we have to educate clients. Not easy, especially in a smaller market.

I’m just glad most of my work is now in application development, where browser compatibility is a smaller proportion of the budget (not because it’s less important, but because we’re often working within proven designs).

]]> By: Clay Mabbitt http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4207 Clay Mabbitt Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:56:13 +0000 http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4207 It's a self-correcting problem. I would agree that the design community should take action to move end-users away from IE6 if it wasn't going to happen naturally on its own. People get new computers that come with the latest browsers. For some people, it just takes a decade or so. It’s a self-correcting problem. I would agree that the design community should take action to move end-users away from IE6 if it wasn’t going to happen naturally on its own. People get new computers that come with the latest browsers. For some people, it just takes a decade or so.

]]> By: Avinash http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4192 Avinash Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:18:20 +0000 http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4192 Ian, I completely agree with your points. I saw the Web Designer Wall article on Digg. After reading the article, I realized that I wasted a few minutes reading an article that was misleading designers. Any skilled designer will love to make his web projects cross-browser compatible. IE 5.x and 6 still capture about 50% share. How can one ask to ignore 50% web surfers?! Ian,

I completely agree with your points. I saw the Web Designer Wall article on Digg. After reading the article, I realized that I wasted a few minutes reading an article that was misleading designers.

Any skilled designer will love to make his web projects cross-browser compatible. IE 5.x and 6 still capture about 50% share. How can one ask to ignore 50% web surfers?!

]]> By: Ian http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4189 Ian Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:57:31 +0000 http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4189 Exactly- one case in point is IE on the Mac. It's been abandoned and unused long enough that my clients are comfortable with me not supporting it. It's a pity that we had to support it down into it's grave, however. Exactly- one case in point is IE on the Mac. It’s been abandoned and unused long enough that my clients are comfortable with me not supporting it. It’s a pity that we had to support it down into it’s grave, however.

]]> By: Nick Peters http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4188 Nick Peters Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:42:17 +0000 http://www.ianlabs.com/2007/08/09/trash-all-ie-css-hacks/#comment-4188 I agree; By not supporting IE6, you're giving your competition an edge. Users of IE6 that go to your site will think your site is broken and will instead go to a competitors site. Unfortunately this might be something designers will have to continue to deal with until the percentage of IE6 users are negligible enough. I agree; By not supporting IE6, you’re giving your competition an edge. Users of IE6 that go to your site will think your site is broken and will instead go to a competitors site. Unfortunately this might be something designers will have to continue to deal with until the percentage of IE6 users are negligible enough.

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